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2003 GN Finding Trip
Part 2
Day 4, Sunday July 20: Great Falls to Havre
Today will be the first day of the GNRHS convention, and while most conventioneers will be quietly settling down in their hotel rooms, preparing to attend the Railfair starting at 6 PM, I embark on a 350 mile trip to cover the western Montana branch lines, to visit sites I missed before and, more importantly, to revisit the (GN?) wood passenger car I found last year on my way to Kevin, MT. Since I don't want to miss the first day of the Railfair either, I make sure to get going early.
Before I start heading
north though, I head south out of Great Falls to Stockett, a town that lost its
own depot long ago but is now home to two other GN depots; Sand Coulee and Gerber. Luck
has it that I find them located next to each other; the Sand Coulee depot now being
used as a
residence and the Gerber depot
in use as a liquor store, with the local Post Office built onto
the side of it. With the town fast asleep I take my pictures and get on my way
again back to Great Falls. On the way I stop in Tracy to look for the
depot there, but that's gone. I do find a glacier green GN goat herald
though, taken
from a boxcar. On to Great Falls.
I go to Black Eagle
first to make sure I did
not overlook that one GN caboose, but still find the same; none. Noticing the light angle, it being mid-morning by now, I decide to revisit familiar
sites in
Great Falls to take pictures in different light than on my previous visits, which
were mostly in the afternoon. I get pictures of the Rainbow Falls
bridge, the GN
depot and Express
Building, turntable,
diesel shop
and storehouse. I also take pictures of
the tower in Great Falls yard, not being sure it is a GN structure, but you
never know. Well, enough hanging around in Great Falls. It's time to head to
Vaughn for the depot there. I find it after some looking around, now in use as part of a tire
service center. A sign on the door calling it 'The Depot' confirms its heritage.
I
cross the highway to check on GN
RPO 86, which is still there accompanied by a NP caboose. Driving west out
of town I encounter many groups of people riding their bicycles on the highway. With
their bikes
and themselves covered in reflective yellow, they must hope that they will be
safe from arrant car drivers; quite daring I think on 60 mph two lane highways!
After avoiding three dozen (or more) bicyclers I reach Fort Shaw to look for
the depot, which I don't find. I do take a picture of the local grain elevator
though,
displaying a beautiful old advertising sign painted on its side. Zigzagging between
bicycles and oncoming traffic I reach the site of the Simms
depot, now in use as
storage on a farm 2 miles east of town. About 25 thousand bicycles later (grmmbl), with yellow
spots blurring my vision, I reach Augusta, the end of this branch line. Following a
report the depot is still standing I look for it at its old location and eventually all
over this fairly large town, but fail to locate it. It might have been razed or
moved. I've lost too much time avoiding bicycles to stop and ask about the
depot, so I quickly move out of town towards Fairfield, west of which a GN caboose should be located (X272). I do see some NP boxcar hulks, but no
GN caboose. Oh well, on to Choteau where I should
have more luck finding
the depot and caboose X302. The depot and caboose are now located at the Teton
Antique Steam & Gas Museum on the
southeast side of town. It being
a Sunday, I
find the grounds closed but manage to take pictures of the depot through the
fence, but I don't see the caboose. Driving out of town I notice a
visitors center and ask there. The friendly lady has no idea of what I'm talking
about. I leave town guessing this was another wild goose chase. Later, when I get home, I get
a email from Ed Mertes of ARCHES,
with a copy of an article in their newsletter by GNRHS caboose
expert Jack Porzig, who was lucky to get inside the grounds and take a picture
of the
caboose. So much for the value of the Choteau Visitors Center. X302 turns out to be an early wood caboose like X101
in Belt, MT. She's in bad condition though, being used as a chicken coop for
years. Although I did not get to see it, this special caboose is at least
confirmed now. On to Bynum and Pendroy where the reported depots cannot be found.
I'm starting to run late now, so I decide to bypass Conrad and go straight to
Cut Bank. A move that turned out not to save much time, since I hit road
construction again (this is not Minnesota, is it?). I take another photo of the Cut
Bank depot and quickly proceed towards the Kevin Hwy, hoping to find that wood
passenger car
again. I get lucky, the car is
still there and the owners are also at home! I ask about the heritage of the car,
but it turns out the current owners are not the ones that moved it there. They bought the
property including this car and five(!) Great Falls Transit Railway trolley hulks
from the previous owner, that moved them there. They were told that the car was used
for housing in Cut Bank before it was moved there. I ask if
I can check the car
out to see if it is GN and they welcome me to do so, but warn me of rattlesnakes
that might be hiding in the tall grass. Cautiously I walk around the car,
suddenly stopping when a sharp pain hits my foot. Oh no, it cannot be... I look
down and discover my shoe stuck to a board on the ground. It turns out I stepped on a rusty nail, which
pierced the sole
of my shoe but
luckily only grazed the side of my foot. Man, the things I do for this hobby! Since there is no
paint left on the car I check the castings for GN markings, and yes it is GN! The
draft gear clearly says GN on it! I look the car over and find it must have
been an observation with the end platform and large picture windows on the
end.
I manage to inspect the inside also and find that it had
been heavily remodeled in the past. I
also find a lot of fire damage. I can't
readily identify anything original. Thinking of how nice it
would be to see this car restored I continue on my way to Kevin, where I take
some additional pictures of the depot and record the BN number of the caboose on display
for Roger Kirkpatrick's surviving caboose list. I take Interstate 15 south to Shelby where I turn off
onto the truck route into town. At the off ramp I chance upon another GN type
steel water tower. I wonder where it might have came from. I drive on into town and
get a picture of the backside of the Shelby
depot, check on the status of the
engine house (still there) and continue east towards Galata. Just west of
town and off line, I find the elevator where the Galata depot has been moved
to. It is now used for storage. Driving along the grass covered spur, I'm bombarded by a
large population of crickets, jumping on and off the car. There are so
many of them that I elect to take pictures from the car to prevent having to chase
them out later. Starting to feel the time pressure, I quickly
continue to Chester for a picture of the depot there. Trying to make up for
lost time I take advantage of the Montana speed limit, but bog down
in another road construction site. The signs say 'for the next 11 miles' (only!), and
they
tore up the entire road, so it's driving on dirt and gravel. So much for
making up time. I get to Rudyard and try to find the depot, which reportedly has been moved
and converted into a Historical Museum. I cover all the streets (I think) but
can't find it. Not wanting to waste anymore time, I leave for Hingham where I find
the depot fairly easy, relocated to a local elevator and now in use as storage.
Ok, it's time now for the final push into Havre, where I arrive shortly before 6 PM. I check in at the Best Western - Great Northern Inn (I just
had to pick this hotel; who can resist the name?), and decide to take the shuttle bus to the
university campus
for the Railfair, since I wasn't sure where on campus it would be held. I put my baggage in the room and check out the view (I asked for trackside). Wow, I'm
right on top of the turntable.
I just have to take a picture right away. After a
phone call to the shuttle bus driver, I get picked up by a school bus! Cool; this
will be my very first school bus ride (I grew up in Holland and it being a small
country, I never lived further away from a school than a short walk or bicycle
ride). After a short, noisy and slow ride I arrive at the MSU Northern campus,
deciding that I do prefer my rental car and will use that for the rest of the
convention. I did have a nice talk with the lady driver though, and had a
chuckle reading the rules posted for the kids; weren't these rules just common
sence when I grew up? I collect my convention papers,
mug and shirt at the door and enter the Railfair hoping that there still will be nice things
left for me. I find enough to satisfy my 'needs', while running into familiar
faces and friends. It's always nice seeing everybody again at these conventions.
After the Railfair closes I hitch a ride into town and after a good discussion
on the GN and general world topics, over a nice dinner with old and
new friends, we all leave to our separate hotels, but not before dodging a million mosquitoes that have gathered at the blue neon lighting outside
the door. What a color to pick!
Day 5, Monday July 21: GNRHS Convention Havre
On my way to MSU Northern
this morning, I visit S-2
2584 in the hope I might get some nice sunlit shots of the engineers
side,
something very hard to accomplish with the engine facing straight west, but the sunlight is already too harsh for nice photos. I later learn from Fr. Dale Peterka
that this is only possible in
winter (not a very appealing time of year to
venture out to Havre, I think). The convention starts today with the second half
of the Railfair. Additional dealers have joined the fair and I pick up more items I 'need'. The browsing is again 'interrupted' by nice talks with
friends and an occasional fan of my website who recognizes me by my nametag.
After a fairly nice and cheap lunch at the Student Center café it's time for
the presentations made by GNRHS members. A bit warm (no air-conditioning) we enjoy listening
to Fr. Dale Peterka talking about Havre and the GN, accompanied by some nice
slides from his collection. He also shares information on some good
railfanning
spots in the area. Ray Djuff follows with a talk about the GN Hotel Operations
in Glacier Park, showing proof of how advertising photos were 'enhanced' to make
the park look more appealing to would-be travelers. Mountains were added and less
interesting views omitted. Next Scott Tanner teaches us how to pronounce the
name of Winhold Reiss, and talks about his favorite subject, a well known painter that did many
of the Indian paintings used on the GN calendars and other advertising material. To
round of the afternoon
Mike Power gives us an interesting, but controversial, talk on the question; 'Should the New Cascade Tunnel
have been built'. A presentation, I think, that should
have had the title 'Should Stevens have located the original line on the other
side (north facing slopes) of the pass'. Understandably this talk gets mixed
reviews from GN fans and GN vets alike, but sure was worth hearing and thinking about.
After a nice dinner at the 'Duck Inn' with some of the Lines West attendees,
discussing Stevens Pass and their impressive modeling efforts, we return for the
business meeting, which is held fairly short this year. Then it's movies time!
Recorded by Anthony de Rosa, we get to see some interesting footage of a wreck-cleanup of a local steam
powered passenger train. It's impressive to see the steam derricks perform their
duties. Next is a movie about the moving of S-2
2584 from the east to the west side of the Havre depot, which showed an
interesting sequence of laying track, moving the engine, tearing up the track
and relaying it in front of the engine, moving the engine, and on and on, until
it finally could be backed into its current spot. Even after so many years of
sitting around, the roller-bearing equipped engine rolled along without any
trouble. Next were the well known De Rosa video tapes released by Pentrex.
Apparently most, if not all, conventioneers must own these tapes, since the Student Center cleared
out fairly quickly during the showing. I thought it was nice to see them again though.
Day 6, Tuesday July 22: GNRHS Convention Havre
Today we have the morning off. Time enough to do some GN hunting. I
have gotten information on the exact
location of the Rudyard depot and decided to go look for
it again. I find the depot at
the mentioned location; how could I have missed it the first time! I get my
pictures and when I'm about to leave, I see a SUV slowly driving by in 'railfan'
mode, turning around and stopping at the depot. It's guys from the convention.
They decided to skip on today's convention tour, and do some railfanning on
their own along the line to Shelby. While discussing our mutual interest and
plans for the day a pick-up truck pulls up. An older gentleman gets out. He had
been alerted of our presence at the Historical Museum, and offers to show us
around in the depot and other buildings. He likes to talk and does not let us
leave until
we have really seen everything, making me almost late
getting back to the
convention. On the way back though, I can't resist to take some nice pictures of a
BNSF 'earthworm' grain
train led by two matched BNSF silver warbonnet Dash 9's. I get to the convention
in time for the Pitchfork Fondue held on the lawn next to the Student Center.
After this unusual but tasty lunch we load up in the school busses, and private cars to go
to Fort Assiniboine (John Stevens slept here!). We are greeted by our tour guide
in upper 90s temperatures with little shade available. After a (very hot) tour of the
grounds, and listening to some interesting stories about the history of the fort we
finally find shade
under some trees, where we can cool down
and ask additional questions. We load
up again in the hot busses and cool air-conditioned private cars and drive off
to Big Sandy to see the Historical Museum located in the GN depot. Big
Sandy is the end-of-the-line now of the route between Havre and Great Falls and
only sees occasional service to serve its grain elevators. The museum
turns out to be quite interesting, even though they have not much on the GN. Some
old photo's and postcards of the town and railroad, and a
REA
baggage cart are pretty much it. They have some nice displays of, among other
things, a general store, school room and
a homestead. The homestead has wallpapering made of turn of the century newspapers in,
what looks like, Slovakian, locally
printed with English ads! I also find some English newspapers with one mentioning
the largest order of freight cars ever, placed by the USRA. You never know where
you'll find what. After admiring the collection and a beautiful mural
depicting the
local countryside, I go back outside to take some pictures of the train
order
signal and railroad crossing signal nearby. With hours to spare before the Rocky's
Rails discussion starts tonight, I get back in the car with Bill Sornsin and
drive back to Havre. We decide to fill the rest of the afternoon with some railfanning and head for the Buffalo
Jump where there is a nice view of the mainline below. We talk about the
practice of the Indians chasing the buffalo over the edge to get their supply of
meat, and briefly discuss if we want to take the tour down the Jump in
this heat. At that time the local tour guide appears and asks if we are
interested in a tour. When we decline, she seems relieved. We don't blame her in
this heat. We explain the real reason why we're here and she appears surprised
about our hobby but remains interested to find out more. I'm sure she must have looked
funny at us though, when we both jumped at the first blast of the horn of an eastbound
train pulling around the Jump into the yard. In nice
sunlight, we take photos of the train and the the yard. Then we say goodbye to the tour
guide and change
locations to the east side of town to look for a switcher at an elevator that Bill
saw coming in on the westbound Empire Builder a couple of days earlier. We did
not find the elevator right away. Then we notice a train approaching in the
distance. A quick U-turn and a dirt road take us trackside, where a SD40-2
powered train is waiting in the hole. We strike up a conversation with the engineer, and find out that
the approaching train will
have to wait a little
while before it can pull into town. We also ask for a good place for dinner (who
knows better than the locals!) and are recommended a good pizza place. Waiting,
we spend
the time taking pictures of the SD40-2's.
Then the expected westbound
pulls into town. We take photos of the engines, and I also capture a brand new
set of TTX 53' well
cars on film. Bill notices some sheds along the tracks and
identifies them as old section
houses, now in use at the adjacent junk yard. More
pictures are taken. Getting hungry we return to town, stopping first at the elevator to see the
switcher. Sooner than expected we
spot
the pizza place. It
turns out to be carry-out only. We order and decide to not wait the thirty minutes it will
take to make them, but
spend the time looking around the yard. Following a parallel road we find no Rocky's,
but we do find two MOW cars, a tank car and a sand car, we think might be ex GN
(they turn out not to be).
After searching for Great Northern cars in a fence made out of old boxcar bodies
and not finding any, it's time to get the pizza which we eat at the hotel. It sure
was the best pizza I had in a while! Time now to get back to the convention and
listen to the interesting and sometimes humorous personal stories of Great
Northern vets at Rocky's Rails. Another day well spent, we return to our hotels
and make it an early night, for tomorrow we will have to get up early for the
highlight of this convention.
Day 7, Wednesday July 23: GNRHS Convention Havre
The last, but most interesting day of
the convention starts early; at 7:40 AM we're expected at the Havre diesel
shops, much earlier than originally planned because of the extensive program the BNSF
has planned for us. This promises something! At the entrance to the shops we're
greeted by the GE manager in charge of the contract maintenance on the GE units
assigned to the Havre facility. He gives us a interesting account of the way GE
and BNSF work together to maintain the fleet of GE units, and welcomes our many
questions while we are waiting to go in. In small groups we go inside where the
Havre Shops Safety Officer gives us a tour of the backrooms and shows one of the bays,
where we witness a unit pulling
in.
It
has its prime mover shut down,
moving on external electric power supplied directly to the traction motors, a
measure implemented because of health issues with running diesel engines inside the
building. Then it's time to move upstairs for a presentation by the Shop Superintendent.
An hour long PowerPoint presentation tells us about the BNSF maintenance
facilities, the history of the Havre facility, the function of the separate
buildings and the movement of the units through the facility depending on their
needs. A very nice presentation, to say the least. We also learn that the
current turntable
is actually the original GN turntable, although recently
moved
to a location further east (so I could take pictures of it from my hotel room,
I'm sure). Then we finally get to the
area we all wanted to see; the engine bays. We are allowed to walk around freely
in the first four
bays, which were cleared and cleaned especially for us. Wow,
what a hospitality! As a special treat two locomotives have been opened up for
us to inspect, one of them being a GN veteran! GN passenger engine SDP40 #325
was brought in for us, and was being prepared for semi-retirement in
storage. Great to see it up close inside and out.
The doors to the, now empty,
steam boiler room were also opened up for our viewing. For contrast a new GE
C44-9W was present, also opened up and available to be inspected. After admiring the
inside of the shops, we were directed to the bus to take
us to the Havre Railroad
Museum,
a nice little museum with lots of GN photo's
and memorabilia as well as some real RR artifacts. Then it's time for lunch at the Eagles.
A chance to rest a little and wait for the next tour; the Havre underground.
The Havre underground was established after a fire burned down the town. It allowed the town folk to continue their regular business under
ground while the
town was rebuilt above ground. A maze of basements was connected to house all
kinds of businesses from a butchers shop and ice cream parlor
(with 'Rocky'
inspired ice cream), to a saloon
and even a house of ill repute. Used until the late 1950's, it is now turned into a museum,
rebuilt to show a cross section of the businesses that were once housed there.
Back above ground in the bright daylight we find out that, due to the extended tour of the Havre shops, the planned group photo at #2584
fell through. We can still go visit her on our own though, as well as the depot next
door, which some of us decide to do. With a group
of conventioneers, including GN vets like Bob Downing, we await the arrival of
the eastbound and westbound Empire Builder, discussing the GN and Amtrak, while listening to the
nice sound of
the
whistle on #2584 which
BNSF shop personnel operated for us using compressed
air. We say goodbye to Bill Sornsin, who is leaving the convention early,
to work home on the westbound
Empire Builder as a National Park Service volunteer, narrating the trip through Glacier
Park. Then we catch the last bus back to the hotels, to freshen up for the
Banquet. The Banquet is held at the Duck Inn. After we all get settled in at
our tables, it's time for the usual speeches and award presentation to some of
the GNRHS
volunteers
for their continued outstanding work and commitment. The major of Havre also
shows up for a speech, but decides to cut his 20 minute slot short to about 20
seconds. He does make us feel welcome in his town though, as had so many local
people that made this convention possible. After pleading a case for preserving
the (to my knowledge) last GN wood water tower standing in Des Lacs, ND and the
observation car near Kevin, MT to GNRHS President Jim Larson, it was time to say
goodbye to all old and new friends, hoping to see them all next year at the
convention in Spokane. (Look for more photos of the GNRHS 2003 Havre convention on the GNRHS
website.)
Continue to Part 3 of my 2003 GN Finding Trip.